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I have a few months left to trade my lease in, so...I've been shopping.
Currently I have an 06 big horn, Hemi, loaded...got it all but leather, sunroof and a nav system.
I found either an 07 or 08 demo on the dealer lot, 2500 fully loaded. No sunroof, it's got all the rest.
But.... It's a Cummins Diesel. I know the price is higher for fuel than gas, but...how bad are these on fuel/mileage comparatively?

I get 13 to 16 city depending on how much I put my foot in it, and 16 to 20 highway, again...depending on if I'm speed racer...my truck does have the MDS...

Love my truck, love the power...but if I can get this truck for a steal, I'm thinking about it.

I don't know if it's an 07 or 08, I don't know the miles, I just know it's a manager special demo truck.

My only concern is the fuel mileage. I drive 22 miles a day round trip from home to work. 90% highway...very little surface roads.

So, let's hear it from the Cummins Diesel guys...
 

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put a programmer on it and be easy on the right foot you will break 20mpg easy

put exh and intake and lot of other stuff you can really get the power and decent economy.



my dmax gets 18+ mpg 4x4 easy i got the chip edge with attitude/juice level 5 80hp and i dont put my foot into it driving it gets really decent mileage.


i would get the cummins best motor on the market for power just the trucks are not that great.
 

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Picture_053.jpg My daily driver is an 02 f250 powerstroke 7.3.
30 gallon tank that holds 25-28 gallons at 1/8 left on gas gage. friday nite i filled it up at 4.42 a gallon. I put 28.5 gallons that cost me almost 126 bucks. My trip odometer had 434 miles so that put me at just over 15 mpg and that 50/50 hiway and city. My ford only has a K&N an 80hp economy tune and no muffler. I lifted it a few inches and run 285/75/16's with 3;73 stock gears. It has 195000 miles and runs great.
I plan to do an 8 inch lift and run 37/13.50/16 on some weld stone crusher wheels...I have the wheels just sitting in the shop. I wish I was made of money! It wouldn't take me forever to get this truck lifted!!!
You will enjoy the power the diesel has. I enjoy my truck, never had a diesel till I got this one.....and I wasn't to sure about it at first. Once I did the 80hp tune I was SOLD on diesel power!!!!
Just get ready to add about 100 bucks a month to your fuel bill> (thats just a guess because most gas trucks do better on the hiway/city than a diesel will)
 

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My buddy has a power stroke, 2 years old...and put some kind of 4 stage kit on it. Basically....you click 1, 2, 3 or 4.
Each click felt like he hit another 20HP shot of NOS. I didn't know a diesel could go so fast...

Like I said, it stickered at 40K, mine when new stickered at 36. I'm wondering how DEEP a discount they'll give me for the demo, how many miles, and how much they'll work with me to turn mine in a little early....

It's not that fire red, it's that Inferno red...it's a sharp truck!!!
 

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I got a 99 dodge cummins with a 120 hp edge chip and a 5 inch monster exhaust on it. The edge chip has 5 different levels of power and each one is pretty impressive. Me and my wife went on vacation last year pulling a 28 ft camper and averaged 16 mpg and my truck is 4x4 with 35" tires and a 8" lift so a factory two wheel drive should get 20 or better.
 

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id get it dave... i was lookin at a 07 last week... but my buddy went up there and bought it !! 30 k lifted with 20's ..
my little bro in law has a 08' ... said he gets almost 20 on highway... i want one bad, but i just payed my truck off acouple of months ago and dont want a new payment at this time..

if u pull stuff.. buy it. u can pull alot and it wont hurt ur gas milage that much. they pull like a dream !!
 

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QUOTE (phatboyz @ Jun 22 2008, 08:16 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3402this is somewhat none of my buisness but you mentioned it so why in the world would someone lease(rent) a vehicle?

Pretty easy...
You are going to pay for a vehicle no matter what. Whether you make a monthly lease payment and trade it in every few years, or you buy one, pay it off, then maintain it. You might not pay on it every month, but break down tires, battery, brakes, belts, etc., and that's just maintenance.
What about front end parts, power steering pump, etc., or worse yet...motor, transfer case, axles, transmission.

You might not have a payment every month, but repairs and maintenance add up. I'm not talking about oil changes or rotating tires either.

You pay a car off, don't have a payment for 3 years, then a transmission takes a dump, etc. and it's a few thousand out of pocket...average that out over the months you didn't have a payment. You could get lucky, you could get nickle and dimed.
I got lucky...had two vehicles over 10 years, put 120K on each of them, no major issues. Traded my Grand Cherokee in for my truck with a transmission going bad.

I like the fact it's under warranty, you get a new vehicle every few years, etc.

That being said, with Dodge's lifetime power train (which, of course doesn't cover diesels)...I'll probably lease for 27 months then buy it outright after to keep that lifetime power train....

Why lease then buy? Easy. Cheaper payments...and it gives me two years or so to see if it's going to be a problem free vehicle, if I like it, etc....


Some have better luck, some don't. After having very good luck with two prior used cars, I don't think I'll be that lucky again...

I had 2 payments left on my Jeep when the tranny went. A 98 in 2006 when I traded it in wasn't worth the few thousand I'd have to put into it for a new tranny... Traded in I got 1500. IF I spent 2000 to 2500 on a new tranny, I could've gotten 2000 to 2500 for it with 149,000 miles.


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It'd be 4WD. I won't own a truck in MI without 4WD. We get snow, sometimes a lot, sometimes a little. We have to put our drag bikes in the back of the truck to get to the drag strip at the dunes....the 4WD will get used.
 

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right on everyone has their way of looking at things just was curious.isnt there a mileage regulation that you cant go over or its considered over your wear and tear? The only thing I would argue is once its payed off you dont have that payment and it would be far easier to come up with the money needed in everyday lifes unforscene pleasuresLOL when you have 400-600 dollars freed up thats not being payed...Ive had a few things happen in my life to I see things as If I had payments I would of been screwed.but its what ever suits you the best
 

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For the lifetime power train warranty there is no mileage limit. You have to have the vehicle inspected every 5 years at NO charge, within 60 days of each of the 5 year anniversaries.

http://www.dodge.com/en/lifetime_powertrai...rranty/faq.html

No deductible, non-transferable.

To me, it's easier to come up with a few hundred a month than it is to come up with a few thousand out of pocket...well, let's face it, it's never gonna be convenient when it breaks....LOL.
 

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just do it dave !!!

they do take a little while to warm up on cold days... lol
 

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but I will say I like this thread because I was thinking of a diesel as well but GOTDANG those little numbers at the gas station stop me!
 

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i pulled my work and play to the dunes with my 02 z71 half ton 5.3 got 7mpg down there.

ive pulled my dads 33 ft gooseneck trailer loaded with 5 ton of scrap metal on it. and got 12-14 mpg. with the dmax.


that trailer its self its a lead sled.

you can put propane injection on it also talked to a trucker he has on his semi getting almost 2mpg more just by adding it thats in a semi loaded 80,000 lbs and idling his truck to unload cement.
 

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Go for it dave.

I will just stick with my old 94 3/4ton 4x4 with a 454 and 5 speed and my 8mpg.
 

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Dave my 06 4x4 Dodge 2500 HD gets 20 mpg on the highway. I started at only 13mpg. Remember with these motors you get better mileage the more miles that are on it until about 50k. the motor doesnt even truely get broken in until 25k.

They are beasts! you wont be disappointed in it for sure! and i think you will qualify for th new gas program too wont you?

Keep in mind each fillup is costing me 150 bucks now....
 

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Greg,
My current 1500 has a 34 gallon gas tank (75 dollar option...) I run mine till the light comes on, yeah...it's 150 plus....
I'm going to call the dealer today, MAYBE stop by and see what they say. I know they're not as flexible on the phone as they are in person....
 

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My 07 Dodge 5.9L Cummins 4X4 3.73 ratio with stock tires is getting 22 to 23 mpg on highway and I am getting 17 to 18 in the city.
 
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I got 2002 Dodge 2500 diesel 4 door, 6ft box..
Pulling a 14ft enclosed trailer I get 20mpg. Without trailer 24mpg on the highway. In town around 22-23mpg..
I got 165,000 miles on it right now and I'm putting in a new diesel injector pump. The Bosch injector pumps last about 150,000 to 170,000 miles. A new pump cost around $1100.

The newer Dodge diesel don't get the good mileage.
 
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