I got a Shee with a 4 mill cub motor. I just got the motor done this winter and had been ridding it on a + 6 swinger, looking at the sky all day long. When I came back from Memorial day I found that my +6 is cracked in numerous spots. I am having a +8 built for it now. This is just a play bike not a full on drag. I have heard that +8 is to long to be a fun bike to ride down in tree shots. The question is how long is to long when just wanting to have a good all around bike. The +8 is almost done so my bed is made but I just wanted to get a feel of what others thought.